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Now Censored: TBLeague / Phicen and other seamless bodies

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MoonsBlessing


NavySubGuy wrote:
MoonsBlessing wrote:I just got a new jiaou doll and the one I got is censored doesn't have details on body anymore I'm very disappointed because Liked the realistic details for art

Just curious ... Rolling Eyes ... did the seller tell you that it was not the original product that you were buying?

Or did they just send it out and hoped that you didn't notice or complain?
they just sent it without saying there was a different body

NavySubGuy


MoonsBlessing wrote:I wish I knew about this sooner because now I can't find the old one anymore anywhere

For the two cents it is worth, you want to stay away from eBay since many of those dealers want to move stock and (I'm afraid) will not inform you of what you will actually be getting.

I messaged 6-7 the last few days and they failed to answer my questions. They hemmed and hawed and never gave a straight answer but kept saying buy it and if you are not happy send it back > Ya', right trying to send it back to China will be so easy and cheep ... NOT!

The safest bet is the big toy and figure dealers.

It is not a huge issue for me as 90% of mine are in fancy Gisha costumes, Ancient garb or historical dress. But the deception is annoying.

ThePhotogsBlog


MoonsBlessing wrote:
NavySubGuy wrote:
MoonsBlessing wrote:I just got a new jiaou doll and the one I got is censored doesn't have details on body anymore I'm very disappointed because Liked the realistic details for art

Just curious ... Rolling Eyes ... did the seller tell you that it was not the original product that you were buying?

Or did they just send it out and hoped that you didn't notice or complain?
they just sent it without saying there was a different body


As I have stated elsewhere, the only thing that will persuade the manufacturers to find some way around the censorship regulations is if they suffer a huge drop in sales because of it. That will not happen if we just keep shrugging our shoulders and buying the new versions.

Visisonor


There are some promising developments with VeryCool seamless bodies.
But reports are conflicting, people at BBICN say their samples are censored, while samples received by people in this thread are not.

GeeWillikers

GeeWillikers
ThePhotogsBlog wrote:As I have stated elsewhere, the only thing that will persuade the manufacturers to find some way around the censorship regulations is if they suffer a huge drop in sales because of it. That will not happen if we just keep shrugging our shoulders and buying the new versions.  

I'm sure that TBLeague at least are monitoring the situation 'with interest'. As I said upthread, I don't think it's a coincidence that they seem to have stopped releasing new body designs altogether.

Meanwhile, the 'sexy little figurines' that caused all this fuss in the first place are apparently still being produced unaltered. Evil or Very Mad

collectorofmany

collectorofmany
I received an email last week from Ekia Hobbies, and they’re aware of the changeover to the Phicen/TBLeague bodies:

“TBLeague Pre 2024 Bodies, uncensored version. New Version will mark V24 on item names.”

They have denoted on all of their online listings the code “V24” which denotes the 2024 version. As far as I can tell, if a listing does not include V24, then you are ordering the pre-censored version.

https://www.ekiahobbies.com/1-6-bodies-and-heads/

Get them while you can!

GubernatorFan

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collectorofmany wrote:I received an email last week from Ekia Hobbies, and they’re aware of the changeover to the Phicen/TBLeague bodies:

“TBLeague Pre 2024 Bodies, uncensored version. New Version will mark V24 on item names.”

They have denoted on all of their online listings the code “V24” which denotes the 2024 version. As far as I can tell, if a listing does not include V24, then you are ordering the pre-censored version.

https://www.ekiahobbies.com/1-6-bodies-and-heads/

Get them while you can!
I hope that is true!


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Was lied to on ebay from seller saying it was the old ones but sent me new censored figure

NavySubGuy

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MoonsBlessing wrote:Was lied to on ebay from seller saying it was the old ones but sent me new censored figure

Is it allowed, on this FORUM, to say who the eBay dealer was?

I have been fortunate to deal with three very trustworthy dealers who have searched "their" distributors (and other locations known to themselves) to find OLD STOCK figures, not the V24 versions for me.

Recently, I have been purchasing just bodies, while holding back on head sculpts, clothing outfits scenery and accessories.

So far, I have 37 TBLeague / Phicen figures with only a few more to go. There are four bodies that are really difficult to find.

I have not seen, in person, a V24 figure, but I have been led to believe by the dealers and other collectors that the censoring is awkwardly apparent. I have been told, the new bodies are NOT as well made.

It appears they have simply patched the original molds to rush them out the door. The results are not as good when compared to the originals, with mixed matched coloring and noticeable skin imperfections.

Sad [MoonsBlessing, was your figure up to TBL standard, other than the censoring?] Sad

Also, expect the non-V24 figures to start going for higher prices when buying from those (people Twisted Evil ) who are only out to scam you and your wallet.

Sorry to hear about your figure.

GubernatorFan

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I don't know if there is a drop off in quality, but yes, the censored molds do appear to have been corrected a little sloppily. There is a whole thread for people to warn of scammers on eBay and elsewhere, although some of that is simply due to disappointment with standard (mostly Chinese market) eBay practices, like listing items not actually in their possession and then informing you that it is sold out after all later.


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MoonsBlessing


NavySubGuy wrote:
MoonsBlessing wrote:Was lied to on ebay from seller saying it was the old ones but sent me new censored figure

Is it allowed, on this FORUM, to say who the eBay dealer was?

I have been fortunate to deal with three very trustworthy dealers who have searched "their" distributors (and other locations known to themselves) to find OLD STOCK figures, not the V24 versions for me.

Recently, I have been purchasing just bodies, while holding back on head sculpts, clothing outfits scenery and accessories.

So far, I have 37 TBLeague / Phicen figures with only a few more to go. There are four bodies that are really difficult to find.

I have not seen, in person, a V24 figure, but I have been led to believe by the dealers and other collectors that the censoring is awkwardly apparent. I have been told, the new bodies are NOT as well made.

It appears they have simply patched the original molds to rush them out the door. The results are not as good when compared to the originals, with mixed matched coloring and noticeable skin imperfections.

Sad [MoonsBlessing, was your figure up to TBL standard, other than the censoring?] Sad

Also, expect the non-V24 figures to start going for higher prices when buying from those (people Twisted Evil ) who are only out to scam you and your wallet.

Sorry to hear about your figure.
its a jiaou doll but it does looks kinda sloppily censored but otherwise looks ok guess, I haven't taken it out to see and feel it because I was hoping to return it

NavySubGuy

NavySubGuy

its a jiaou doll but it does looks kinda sloppily censored but otherwise looks ok guess, I haven't taken it out to see and feel it  because I was hoping  to return it

I am not familiar with Jiaou dolls. I have only been purchasing TBLeague but wasn't sure if Jiaou was also affected by the new censor laws.

I have not heard if LDDOLL or UANDD or others will also alter their figures.

Once again sorry to hear that your venture into this hobby is being difficult.

GubernatorFan

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NavySubGuy wrote:I have not heard if LDDOLL or UANDD or others will also alter their figures.
For now, at least, LDDOLL is apparently not affected. I got suckered into buying a new body with a good discount some time ago and it arrived yesterday.


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That's a sad development, although it's not going to break this hobby, I think. But happy there are still realistic options around. Do we have a review on these LDDOLL bodies?

GubernatorFan

GubernatorFan
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ZombieTestSubject wrote:That's a sad development, although it's not going to break this hobby, I think. But happy there are still realistic options around. Do we have a review on these LDDOLL bodies?
I did a review HERE, of one of their male bodies (32 Boy but more likely 30 Boy, I think it was mislabeled, given what I know now). I have gotten a couple of different ones since, might make another review.


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Visisonor wrote:There are some promising developments with VeryCool seamless bodies.
But reports are conflicting, people at BBICN say their samples are censored, while samples received by people in this thread are not.

I just got the Chun-Li from Star Man. It uses a VeryCool body. Sadly it is completely censored.

Miodh

Miodh
gooboo wrote:. Anyway, it just a temporary solution during the special period I guess. Of course, you can send an email to consult them directly."

I wonder if it's just a temporary thing, trying to avoid the eye of the CCP, or if it's permanent.

Where do you find these contact details? You and the other op just throw it around like it's easy to find. I can't even find some of the producers of each release. I can't find phicen or tbleague with a search...

Miodh

Miodh
GeeWillikers wrote:
davidd wrote:Specifically, what is being changed or removed?

Genital details? Or are the busts also being redesigned?

Genital details and nipples, at least in the case of TBL's female figures - and I also assume Jiaou's. How this will extend to male figures remains to be seen (I imagine it's almost certain that the optional male genitals will not be included again in future).

Personally I could care less about 'genital details', but erasing nipples from figures is just ridiculous.

I also messaged Amelia at GianToy to ask about the situation and here's her response:

"Thanks a lot for contacting us. Yeah unfortunately this is true.

So it started from a mom that caught [her] pupil son playing with a very sexy little figurine (not 1/6 action figures in realistic style, it's one of those small anime character statues, with very tempting body details and almost no clothes I suppose), and she got so concerned to have to call the journalists to expose this as a "scandal" of the toy industry trying to poison an innocent child. So, this went up on television and aroused some debates. Government visited lots of toy factories, and require them to make sure they future products comply with the policies related to children.

It does not really matter whether the product says "only for adults" on the packaging. As long as it could be exposed to a child as a "toy", it needs to meet the regulations. It's a grey area for some of the body products in 1/6 scale, but most factories might choose to play safe. It's not an easy decision to make for them I'm sure but as a big company they need to think in the long term.

Most of the bodies we stock now are the new version, btw."


This makes it sound like it's a permanent change, that will affect all brands of seamless 1/6 figures going forward.

Well, due to various factors like finances and health concerns I've been on the fence about continuing with the hobby for a while now, and this development is just another added factor against. I've got a couple of outstanding preorders from last year still to be fulfilled, and from then on I think it'll just be the odd speciality set for me (like that cool Middle Ages Blacksmith set from Pop that was showcased last year, if it ever gets released).

This seems like legal nonsense. If they're marked as adults only, then the mother should be prosecuted by the government. It all sounds like an excuse. Example there's adult m*sterbation devices made etc that can be found.

It should hinge around one unhinged woman, when millions are ok with it. The government ignores plenty of sole voices on a range of subjects such as christians on banning demon toys and there's thousands of them asking for it...

The other thing I want you to tell me is how you know these people on a first name basis like you have them all on emails. I can't even find a whole company. Where do you get this info?

GubernatorFan

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Miodh wrote:This seems like legal nonsense. If they're marked as adults only, then the mother should be prosecuted by the government. It all sounds like an excuse.  Example there's adult m*sterbation devices made etc that can be found.

It should hinge around one unhinged woman, when millions are ok with it. The government ignores plenty of sole voices on a range of subjects such as christians on banning demon toys and there's thousands of them asking for it...

The other thing I want you to tell me is how you know these people on a first name basis like you have them all on emails. I can't even find a whole company. Where do you get this info?
Plenty of legal stuff is nonsense, but even then it is significant and impactful.
The information shared here comes from a variety of sources, including Chinese discussions on BBCIN that are beyond my scope, and also individual inquiries to and replies from stores, such as GianToy. These can be contacted, most easily by existing customers. For example, support at giantoy dot com.  However, it is good to remember that these are not the makers of the product, just sellers, and between that and the little hindrances of the language barrier (with quite a lot lost in translation), as well as the futility of complaining in a totalitarian state, going in guns blazing is not a good idea.


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